However, you and he can't deal with it alone. After the traveling merchant has been revealed, his name will change to bounty hunter. The only way to save Goodsprings and still be able to walk into the NCRCF is to never take part in the fight, let the townsfolk kill all gang members. Update for the boys, this is a more accurate way to fix it using console command: Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. You also get XP for teaching him recipes now. I was a little salty that when I finished the legion Oliver showed up and I had to fight him and the rangers. Removed a good amount of unused space in the Westside headquarters. I've already completed the quest Ghost Town Gunfight on the side of Goodsprings rather than the Powder Gangers. Only much later did I realize you can actually just talk to them. Thats basically it. You'll need a Speech or Sneak skill of 25 in order to convince her, or you she simply won't get involved in this battle. The Prospector's Den quest marker updates after talking to Ian. There are a lot of characters to meet in Fallout New Vegas. The Karma system is , best to just ignore it because the way it works Robin Hood would be the ultimate badguy and some psycho who murders everyone would have good karma. https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/36219/ Me, i just would start over and not proceed the quest in goodsprings til . Prim will throw you a party. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Thanks for the quick response. This provided an opportunity that the inmates seized to stage a prison break. Share. If you have anything at your disposal from anyone else, now's the time to use all of those goods. Indeed, you'll find many of the decisions you make in the game to meander towards similar this-or-that scenarios. Theres the kill literally every single thing that exists route. It appears that Ringo and Joe are going to come to blows soon, and obviously, you're going to be able to get involved. Eddie NCR fame, 300 XPORPowder Gangers fame, 200 XP, 100 caps, 1 Mentats, 1 Psycho, 1 Buffout 00101F42 Site news (important news will be issued), Comments on your files, images and videos, New images and videos added to your files. All rights reserved. Society When the battle is done, you'll find yourself in a karma deficit with the Powder Gangers, but that's okay, because you'll have a karma surplus with the residents of Goodspring. Copyright 2023 Robin Scott. As a result, Powder Ganger raids on caravans became an unfortunate fact of life in the. (Optional) Betray Eddie by offering Lieutenant Hayes assistance in retaking the Prison. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/36219/. It's fun Fallout Shelter don't have any votes lulz. Between Ringo, Sunny and yourself, you should be just fine getting through this fiasco. About this mod. Had a eureka of my own =). The quest log and marker should now update on acquiring the Viper Mine stash. Gameplay wise they do very little. Killing all of Eddie's guards stealthily may allow one to get to Eddie and initiate dialogue without hostilities, as a workaround for the above issue. So, if this was gonna take a long time, I might as well install a few mods to make it more interesting. Killing Eddie prior to that point will create a mission failure. after he is dealt with, return to Eddie and let him know Chavez is handled to gain Powder Gangers fame +1. As soon as one exits the building, the assault will begin, and NCR troopers pour into the facility and attack. Patched initial quest to prevent accidental lockout, and fixed its check only working if the player had exactly one leather armor. He's a businessman at heart, fair but stern, and getting him to help with his supplies is going to be difficult. Just speaking with him and letting him know what you're about to be up against will net you several Stimpaks. New quests and weapons that are accessible even if the vanilla Powder Gangers already hate your guts! All the stages have multiple possible solution methods, depending on how you prefer to handle stuff, and in the final stage of the quest, you can betray the powder gangers to the NCR and help the NCR attack the place. Head back over to the Prospector Saloon. Added lip sync to some lines missing it. Close . There is an effect, though not a huge one on the overall plot. Fixed an infinite dialogue exploit with Floyd. There's no way around that. Not the most immersive, but you get used to it. The ending slide will act like you never interacted with the Prison at all. There are no special requirements to recruit him. If the Courier has acquired a "shunned" reputation with the Powder . Copyright 2023 Robin Scott. Follow Trudy's advice and seek out this Ringo character, who has apparently holed himself up in Goodsprings' dilapidated gas station, due just west of the Prospector Saloon. H.., Fallout: New Vegas PlayStation 3 Increased Nipton Medic ForceGreet Package distance, Added weapons and NPC's to appropriate Form Lists (perks, challenges). Powder gangers shoot me at sight in NCR correctional facility. We'll leave the gas station posthaste to do so now, but first, be sure to grab the Boxing Times Magazine from the shelf in the gas station en route. Destroy ONLY the sulfur deposits below Vault 19 and convince. Kids are like members of my discord server, theyre now allowed to die and Yes Man respawns infinitely. NCR Correctional Facility When logged in, you can choose up to 12 games that will be displayed as favourites in this menu. There are factions of Powder Gangers spread far along the southwestern part of the Mojave Wasteland, all the way down towards Nipton.[10]. Becuase you're technically stealing from the NCR. This is a game where your decisions are meant to stick. It wont in the long run. If one wants to be certain to complete the quest, (and not intervene), one will have to visit each cell block, otherwise the NCR will just kill the Powder Gangers in the yard, then the Admin building. The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic. Killing him (and/or the other Powder Gangers with him) will not cause any reputation loss with the Powder Gangers, and his "crew" may not turn hostile if Chavez is killed in front of them. You kids arent gonna know what Im talking about, but I printed out a list of every named NPC in New Vegas onto paper and stapled it into a bundle of paper thatd been stapled together by someone with a stapler. Contents 1 Background 2 Interactions with the player character 2.1 Interactions overview 2.2 Other interactions 3 Combat notes 4 Inventory 5 Notable members 6 Bugs 7 Appearances Background Powder Gangers: 00101F42: Vipers: 0015F16E: Primm residents: 000D7F56: The Strip: 00140A88: Tops Casino (Chairmen) 00117508: White Glove Society: 00116F10: Van Graffs . This author has not provided any additional notes regarding file permissions. Most Powder Gangers at the Correctional Facility fled into the wasteland rather than face the advancing forces of the Legion. Overview Killing powder gangers and feral ghouls spikes your karma so much in the other direction that you'd have to actively avoid killing any to have "stealing" to add up enough to actively count against you. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HLHqINNuM8Can You Beat Skyrim By Only Using Shouts? Then, seek out a bed or use some medicine to heal yourself up before you go about your business, in whatever manner you choose. Doing so caused me to lose karma. It can be done, but it is finnicky, needs a lot of reloading, and very precise movement. Talk to Eddie and ask if he has any work. Talking to him without being able to pass the speech skill will result in combat. V19 guys just wanted me to clear out some geckos in the lower level. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TzSmz3BokECan You Beat Fallout 4 With Only A Commie Whacker? It only changes depending on if you helped or betrayed Eddie during the NCRCF questline. I took that one because the strength will help with weapon handing. Fixed an issue where Hannigan and Carter could cause game lag. Finally, one will be asked to find out about the NCR's plans for the prison. Meyers won't be able to be the Sheriff of Primm, and you wontbe abke to do the mission to clear out the Prison for the NCR. The NCR, battered by the loss of the Dam, were unable to devote any troops to retaking the Correctional Facility from the Powder Gangers. A couple of notes have been added for general lore purposes. Read that J. Sawyer himself didnt like how the karma system in FONW ended up. Powder Ganger Simple: A simple t-shirt and jumpsuit combo. Job letters in HQ disable after their relevant quest is finished. Vilified by Powder Gangers, is this bad? Indeed, you'll first need to recruit some help. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY4GfoqI2-0Can You Beat Fallout 4 Without A Pip-Boy? Your best bet is to take refuge behind the cart in front of the Prospector Saloon, which should guard you pretty well against the gunfire from the Powder Gangers. [citation needed], The group engaged in commerce with establishments in Nipton. But I am sure somehow there is a way. One can try to shake him down for a "toll" (30 Speech required). Citizens of the NCR were favorite targets, and they always suffered the worst fates. She'll give you three optional tasks to try to get some other people involved. Included hotfix to prevent crashes in Camp McCarran Concourse under specific circumstances. At this point, Sunny will show up. Released Mod. When logged in, you can choose up to 12 games that will be displayed as favourites in this menu. Fallout: New Vegas Run Goodspring Run - Fallout: New Vegas Guide with maps and videos. Commenting on the differences between the Fallout: New Vegas Powder Gangers and the 215 Rail Line Powder Gang, Joshua Sawyer stated that the Van Buren faction had much more developed characters and were to play a larger role, while in Fallout: New Vegas, their focus in the game was greatly diminished.[17]. Fear the Reaper is, from what my beautifully marbled brain understood it to mean, supposed to give you a perk every level at the cost of your health dropping to 10% when you level up. (Hopefully) Made it so Carter and Hannigan despawn from NCRCF appropriately if recruited into Dufresne's gang. [7] Eventually, the gangers established a sizable presence outside the prison, with a ring of camps around it, focused on raiding caravans that tried to push through to Vegas and launch attacks to terrorize the local towns of Goodsprings, Sloan and Primm. Fallout Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. Second game, I killed them all and had no affect on the games outcome at all. (5) Join up with Sunny. Then you can walk into the visitor centor without getting attacked. New quests and weapons that are accessible even if the vanilla Powder Gangers already hate your guts! Mojave Wasteland:Hunter's farmInterstate 15NCR Correctional FacilityPowder Ganger camp eastPowder Ganger camp northPowder Ganger camp southPowder Ganger camp westPrimmVault 19Whittaker farmstead They've been nothing but trouble for us - why would we want one of them anywhere in an official capacity? Go to every location and wipe out thousands of creatures, which of course becomes a problem when enemies start re-spawning. Moralistic answer: Stealing from thieves means you aren't any better than they are. And theres only so many ways I can describe killing people, the Paul writing this right now is unsure of how hes gonna handle that. A large contingent of Powder Gangers can be found in Vault 19, under the leadership of Samuel Cooke, although there they are identified as escaped convicts. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBVBrUXGpWkCan You Beat Fallout 3 as a Baby? After the majority of the Vault 19 Powder Gangers joined the Great Khans, the weaker members scattered throughout the Mojave Wasteland. Kinda RNG based though apparently. Some are helpful, some are annoying, and some only exist in your heart. Once combat is finished and your are [HIDDEN], re equip the PG armor and go back to loot Dawes' corpse for the key. I Fought the Law is a side quest in Fallout: New Vegas. Finally, go back and visit with your old friend Doc Mitchell. Hi everyone. Since you're already in the Prospector Saloon, staying put and speaking with Trudy behind the bar is probably going to be your first order of business. 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That or they were so unmemborable I forgot them. You won't exactly have the NCR retake it, but if you dont want to use console commands you can just pretend the NCR took it back. One may need to remove and then put the Powder Gangers faction armor back on to reset rep back to neutral, and also wait around until they no longer sense the player character, so they no longer appear as hostile. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Working on the Chain Gang - A Powder Ganger Quest Mod. There is stashed ammo and equipment in a number of hollowed-out rocks all over the Mojave Wasteland. The favored and most common weapons among the Powder Gangers are explosives, primarily the powder charges and dynamite which they acquired during their time in prison and escape. New weapons with unique textures (as of v1.5)! After Eddie is killed the NCR troops will go into idle mode and walk around the building leaving the Powder Gangers alive in other buildings. Sergeant Lee and the NCR Correctional Facility If everyones gonna die, theres no reason to talk to anyone. Working On The Chain Gang - Expanded Powder Gangers | New Vegas Mods Al ChestBreach 470K subscribers Subscribe 1.1K 27K views 1 year ago A brand new expansion for the Powder Ganger. But hey, i'm not here to judge. Next up on your list should be Easy Pete, who you'll either find within the Prospector Saloon, walking around outside nearby, or more likely, sitting in his usual chair outside the front entrance to the bar. Like Sunny, Doc will be easy enough to convince. So, let's get to it. There is also the ability to recruit Victor to assist and this lightens the load further. Why do I lose Karma by stealing from Powder Gangers? By doing this it is also possible to gain the rewards for helping Eddie (300 XP instead of the normal 200), only become shunned (Powder Ganger camps will not attack the player character) by the Powder Gangers (. If the prior options fail, the merchant can be killed without Karma penalty. Philip LemJoe CobbChavez Lee may mention reporting back to Lt. Hayes after the quest has finished, but if My Kind of Town has already been completed, he will be gone from the NCR camp at Primm. New unique missile launcher: Expedita. Location there is a mod on nexus that might help you. The NCR reputation is gained by speaking with Lee after Eddie dies. All rights reserved. Added Wild Wasteland sound to WW triggers. Valve Corporation. Here's a quick tip for anyone playing in 2020 who finds themselves vilified with Powder Gangers before they can take a quest from Eddie (as I did and spent an hour looking for a solution). Made some edits that remove conflicts with The Living Desert innately (renders patch redundant). #2 Silverio Dec 29, 2014 @ 5:10am Thanks for the quick response. They carry single shotguns, 9mm pistols, varmint rifles and .357 Magnum revolvers. They are exceptional enemies to the Courier during the first part of the game, unless the player chooses to . In case someone will still read this, I have found the solution for the Powder Ganngers, and how to make them neutral even after them becoming Vilified. Divisions Great for those who prefer to sling their dynamite than getting up close and personal. The first thing we need to come to an understanding of is what constitutes killing everyone? According to the wiki: If you acquired a "shunned" reputation with the Powder Gangers by completing the Ghost Town Gunfight, you will still be able to talk to Eddie in order to receive this quest but assaulting anyone in the prison or gaining another level of infamy will turn the Powder Gangers hostile upon your entrance. I didnt help anyone, btw i helped ncr to protect primm so im done with primm rn, thanks for the tip again. Easy Pete, if he's in the area, will get involved in the fight, and obviously the man responsible for all of this, Ringo, will also help out. Added a missing audio line for Hannigan. A couple of them have nothing more than melee weapons, and will thus rush your position from the outset of the battle. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEYakRU58_cCan You Beat Honest Hearts Without Taking Any Damage? It is possible to talk to Eddie without a Stealth Boy, even if one is vilified by the Powder Gangers. (4) Return to Ringo when you're ready for the gunfight with the Powder Gangers. If Lee dies during the assault, no NCR reputation will be gained. Talking to him and asking how one can help out is all that is required to start this quest. Probably has something to do with the game being shipped after less than 2 years in production lol. NCR Correctional Facility Well, if they want rampage, I will give it to them! (1) Talk to Sunny Smiles about fighting the Powder Gangers. use a stealth boy and pick pocket the keys from the guard then talk to the sherif then hi tail your ass outta there. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Since you usually don't side with the person you plan on siding against I never considered it, so is there some other way to get the quest or are cheats my only hope at this point? Speak with her, and you'll be able to engage her in conversation about the plight of Ringo, and taking on Joe Cobb and his gang. 3.Only fight deathclaws if you are level 15 or higher 4.if your idolized in freeside your hated Press J to jump to the feed. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. The slightly longer answer would be that you obviously can't do any quests given by the Powder Gangers now. It will take precious little convincing to get Sunny involved, but as she says thereafter, you're still going to need more help. still I couldn . Obviously, VATS will be a huge help here, but if you're out of action points, you'll need to resort to some old-fashioned first-person action to get the job done. 20. These are the consequences for doing so. The Powder Gangers (also referred to as Powder Gangsters by Johnson Nash) are a gang of escaped prisoners operating in the Mojave Wasteland in 2281. The short answer would be that it won't affect your game much. Talk to the locals in Primm and learn what if anything - the NCR is planning for the correctional facility. It is possible that Hayes and some of the troops under his command were sent to Hope, and that is why some troops at Forlorn Hope say that they got reinforced by troops from Primm. Once you're inside, you'll find Sunny and her dog Cheyenne right off the bat. Note ownerships fixed (credit to TwilightKhan and MagnuMspec), Added behavior packages to Krieger in North Vegas, Polished NPC patrol packages and spawn scripts, Edited Finale NPC factions to reduce instances of friendly fire, Boulder Beach popups should only trigger once now upon completion of the relevant skill checks. Log in to view your list of favourite games. When you're done at Doc Mitchell's house, you can visit Victor at his shack and get some extra fire power added to the fight for minor effort. [2][3] The inmates were tasked with maintaining a railroad alongside the Long 15 under military supervision, keeping the vital link between the Boneyard and New Vegas alive. [12] The Vault 19 group plan to join the Great Khans, at the behest of their leader, Samuel Cooke, indicating some level of respect is held for the Khans.[13][14][15]. 1K. Also, one can sneak behind the computer on his desk after the talk, back away to the wall, then stand up and walk away. Using this technique, one can get rid of every Powder Ganger at the NCR Correctional Facility except for Eddie and Meyers. Updated several NPC Packages and Scripts to improve performance. You could restart and do the quest without killing any Powder Gangers. Valve Corporation. Have you ever wanted to be a stylish convicted felon in a post apocalyptic wasteland? A number of cut and partially completed dialogue options exist which point towards the final portion of the quest having had additional options for helping out.